Ishin & Ryuuken ~ Troubled Family?
Hey everybody. May I the First to say: Happy new year to everyone here at bleachedichigo.com may the manga stay as awesome this year as it has been last year and the years before that.
I decided on this post after reading an interesting theory. My reply to that one kinda made me wanting to go a bit deeper into a few things. The theory where my train of thought has spawned from is the theory of Ichigo’s mother being a Quincy. If so, what would that mean for all the folks on earth. Ichigo, Ishida and the history between Ishin and Ryuuken. It’s a bit long but I’ll hope you all enjoy it.
Kurosaki Misaki
In short, what do we know Ichigo’s mother Kurosaki Misaki. Not all that much really other than that she was a caring mother turning Ichigo into a bit of a mothers-child.
Kurosaki Misaki: Loving mother and Quincy?
Early in Ichigo’s life she was killed by Grand Fisher. For a very long time Ichigo blamed himself for her death. Later we hear that it was Grand Fisher who was responsible for tricking Ichigo. Thou Grand Fisher doesn’t remember the incident himself seeing he has only a memory of Six Years -That’s right, check it out if you want.. I did- . Anyway Ichigo was lured to the image of a child near the water and ran off to save her, his mother dived after him too keep him from drowning.. anyway, that would be her objective is she was ‘merely’ human. If she was a Quincy(active or no) she would have been able to see the true danger and throw herself between Ichigo and Grand Fisher in order to save her son. As I said earlier, she was very important to Ichigo and of-course for the rest of the family. Ichigo always blamed himself for her death and was simply frustrated by the fact that his father and his two younger sisters never blamed him or even got angry at him for his actions that day. His father had to set him straight with some speak for Ichigo to regain his resolve. So let’s talk Ishin next
Kurosaki Ishin
So, the ‘first’ man of the hour. Ishin. Misaki’s husband, Ichigo’s father and most importantly a Shinigami. And one that dropped out of Soul Society at some point in time. In my personal opinion I find Ishin the most interesting character who has yet to reveal himself to the others. Mainly because I found him hard to place in the known timeline. One reason to support that is that no one really seems to know know the family name Kurosaki. Then again it could be a similar case with the Vaizards. Their names being more or less forgotten over time or forcefully kept silent by the Central 46. The most obvious would be to place him as a previous member of the Royal Guard. However I have another theory of how he did end up on Earth. The only one that springs to mind is the war against the Quincy. However in my search on some facts of Ryuken in the manga chapter I found some interesting info that could place Ishin in the timeline so stay with me here.
Kurosaki Ishin: Former Shinigami and full-time retard father
Ishin & the Quincy war
Let me start of with what I found in chapter 123. This chapter is part of the fight between Mayuri and Uryuu. Mayuri talks briefly about the war. The line that stands out is where he says that the Quincy were near to extinction around the time he became the next president of the research department. The same department Kisuke has set up. And I think we all know when that happened. About 110 years ago when the ‘Vaizard’ case -Turn Back the Pendulum- began. It is possible that Ishin was a Captain at that time.
In the pic, a small reference is made about a third squad captain who has retired. Since no name has been mentioned it could very well have been Ishin who retired some time before Rose took his position, possibly due to the events during the Quincy war. Oddly enough, later on in the flashback arch, Urahara say that no one really retires from the Gotei 13. It could be that Ishin ’escaped’ from his position, maybe faking his death?. Ishin does still keeps wearing his captain’s robe on his shoulder. Hell, it could very well be a 3rd Squad number on the back. Whatever the reason it could be that he did some crazy stuff in that war and felt he needed to watch over the remaining few Quincy himself. After seeing Misaki he could have contacted Urahara who fled down to earth. Ishin was probably well aware of what Urahara has done as a ‘scientist’ and probably called upon his help build a gigai for him to remain on earth in body of flesh and blood so he could go after Misaki and gain a normal life. His history from that point on doesn’t need further explanation. So let us move on to the next parent.
Ishida Ryuuken
The last Quicy -well almost- and father of Uryuu. So, remember we are still going with the theory that Kurosaki Misaki is a Quincy. Ryuuken has an obvious disgust for Shinigami due to the war that raged between Shinigami and Quincy. Since Uryuu though Ryuuken abandoned his power as a Quincy we all assumed the same. Well.. later we were very wrong. Ryuuken doesn’t seems to have lost any bit of his strength when saving and training his son. So what possibilities does our Quincy theory offer to Ryuuken. One would be the fact that Ryuuken and Misaki are brother and sister. There is not much to support that kind of relationship apart from one thing. The relationship between Ryuuken and Ishin.
They look like they had alot of forced family visits.
Thou they don’t have a lot of dialog together they do seem to know each other quite well. Seeing how Ryuuken would hate Shingami like the plague yet he seems to be tolerating Ishin, maybe even a hint of respect. Ishin seems to have some respect for him at the very least. So some of you might already realize what this possible relation between these two characters would mean for two others.
Uryuu and Ichigo
cousins should look after eachother right?
Yep… If Ishin and Ryuuken are brothers-in-law due to Misaki being his wife -going along with everything above- that would mean that our main hero Ichigo and Uryuu are blood related. I don’t think it is necessary to go further into their pasts as those have been made well-known throughout the manga. If this theory is true then I’m sure we get to a point in time where Ichigo and Uryuu would find out. That would be quite amusing seeing how proud Uryuu tends to be. On the other hand he has broken his father’s will on several occasions for Ichigo and the others so he is loosening up a bit. In this case we can only wait and see what the manga will bring. For now Uryuu is still back in Hueco Mundo with the each other whereas Ichigo has just arrived to own base so I guess I’ll have to stop right here and now.
I hope you all enjoyed my first serious piece and hope you find it a welcome addition to bleachedichigo. And of course I hope my English won’t ruin it for everyone. I did use the spell checker:P. I’d like to know what you all think of this theory.
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January 1, 2010 6:33 pm
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By RyoRaizen, January 1, 2010 @ 10:34 pm
While this blog seems well informed, this whole theory is one big stretch. none of this evidence is solid, or has the capability of being solid. I don’t mean to be disrespectful, but this borders on fan-fiction.
By ssj, January 1, 2010 @ 11:32 pm
A well thought out theory Pretend3r. It is a possibility, but I doubt it. Their are two more realistic reasons why Ryuuken and Ishin would know each other. 1.) They are both spiritually capable beings living so close, they might have met in a similar way that Ichigo and Uryuu did. 2.) Maybe they both had a thing for Misaki back in the day, which would explain the hard feelings.
If Ichigo had any Quincy in him, don’t you think some quincy powers would be foreshadowed a little? Regardless, this is a very well constructed theory post you got here (and your grammars fine), and I hope you’ll continue to make more
By neikichi kisrosz, January 2, 2010 @ 4:45 am
interesting..
By Pretend3r, January 2, 2010 @ 11:54 am
@RyoRaizen: Not at all mate. Her being a Quincy is indeed a bit far fetched. Even so, I still alot of fun diggin back into the old chapters. They looked awsome.
By RyoRaizen, January 2, 2010 @ 12:49 pm
Then it wasn’t a waste of time! Good for you!
By cfho83, January 2, 2010 @ 5:39 pm
that isn’t a bad theory, forget what everyone else thinks, in anime the one thing that you dont’ think about is the one thing that would happen. but anyway, back to your post, that would explain ichigo’s immeasurable amount of spiritual energy. without his mother being there to help him control it, he would end up as he did, a lot of energy just flowing out without a way to control where as quincy has excellent energy control. ichigo father isshin couldn’t because when isshin fought the king fisher, urahara mentioned that isshin was finally getting his powers back due to the gigai, so he couldnt’ help ichigo and his sisters control their powers. and then the way isshin called the hospital and told them to tell the owner that kurosaki was calling in a favor seals the deal, i mean a quincy is proud and upholds honor, why not honor his sister’s husband request, it shouldn’t matter that she is dead, and i think uryuu knows this and that explains the reasons he helps ichigo. thanks for the post it really makes a lot of sense, i hope it is try.
By cfho83, January 2, 2010 @ 9:01 pm
i meant to say, i hope it is true.
By Bob Ichimaru, January 3, 2010 @ 11:02 am
Very interesting theory here, Pretend3r, and you certainly did your homework on the subject. Although there’s no solid evidence to back it up, I think the Misaki = Quincy idea has merit. After all, there was no solid evidence of Ishin being a shinigami either prior to his secret being exposed. Your theory makes me think back to the earlier chapters when Ichigo first started as a shinigami. He demonstrated some Quincy-like abilities like being able to track others using their spirit thread (sorry forgot what those were called). Maybe it was something he inherited from mother-dearest. Who knows.
There’s still so much we don’t know about how Ichigo obtained his powers. Just being the son of a shinigami shouldn’t account for all his innate abilities. There may be something more about Ichigo’s mother that’s still waiting to be revealed.
By Pretend3r, January 3, 2010 @ 6:55 pm
Well Bob, I guess we have to call this post a theory about another theory:P
By Aoi Nara, January 5, 2010 @ 7:48 am
well i couldn’t wait to see what all can happen if this all was true…
lol imagine strawberry mega form, using ultimate attack
throwing zangetsu as an arrow
By BSK17, January 10, 2010 @ 8:00 am
thats a very interesting theory. but then, if both his parents possessed spiritual powers, why wasn’t ichigo born with his powers active? all this time, we have believed that the reason ichigo’s powers only awakened after close contact with similar powers was because one of his parents was a normal human.
as interesting as the theory may be, i’d really hate for it to be actually true. cuz such turns of events are quite common in such stories. main character turns out to be the half brother of the villain. his ancestor was an immortal god. if u watch OP, luffy’s family tree shud give u an idea of what i’m saying. for once i’d like things to be believable as far as these things are concerned.
anyway, awesome post, pretender. keep ‘em coming. theories like this are what really keeps the manga alive and interesting.